The Betz mystery sphere

[panicman]

i am not really sure where to put this story, mods feel free to move.

This bizarre, allegedly self propelled, seamless metallic orb was discovered by members of the Betz family in 1974, and rapidly became the object of fascination, controversy and alarm for scientists, military officials, ufologists and the general public as the story of this mystery sphere spread like wildfire through the international media.


If you shake the ball vigorously and then place it on the ground it feels just like a huge Mexican jumping bean, which is trying to get away from you.”

The Betz Mystery Sphere: Alien Artifact or Doomsday Device? | Mysterious Universe

As any one else heard of this before?

 

[bart5050]

There was a plastic ball toy on the market for a bit a decade or so ago.
It was hollow with two different size and weight balls inside, and a fluid to dampen their motion.
So the center of mass would always be off center and would change center of mass slower than its positional orientation.
So when you rolled it, it would never roll straight, and would roll in a circle etc.

The Navy said this sphere was a variation on that and was not extraodinary, made of earth based materials.
It must have been expensive to make.

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[SOUL-DRIFTER]

I recall reading the original story back in 1974.
It was indeed a strange ball going by what was reported about it.
Bart, I would be hesitant to accept the Navy's idea about it, first...would that explanation explain the balls responding to music or emitting high frequency sounds the dog reacted to.
Maybe they are right and the reports are over exaggerated, but the reputation of the military at that time in giving ludicrous explanations cannot be ignored either.

My biggest question is where the hell is it now?
Why couldn't a good reporter do some searching and find the Betz family to see if what they last know about it could help track it down or determine what became of it?

 

[panicman]

My biggest question is where the hell is it now?
Why couldn't a good reporter do some searching and find the Betz family to see if what they last know about it could help track it down or determine what became of it?[/QUOTE]

Thats what i would like to know as well, where the hell is it? if it's nothing special, where is it?

Well SD if you have some free time on your hands your could go have a look see

 

[mikekle]

Yeah, I dont buy that either, when they first examined it they would have been able to tell if it was just something simple like that, but no one was able to tell what it was. What probably happened is the navy just decided to throw some wild claim out there that it was man made, just to stop interest in the device, and gee, now nobody knows where its at..thats pretty convenient!

I have no idea what it was, but after reading the story, I doubt we will ever know,

BTW a man made 'ball within a ball' still cannot act on its own and defy laws of physics! if it can than they need to re-write alot of books! lol

 

[bart5050]

It did not defy the laws of physics.
It used them to do the unexpected.
There were two internal balls of different size and weight.
When rolling due to a push, the center of gravity was always behind the pivot.
It would stop and roll back.
When rolling to a table edge, it would back off if the forward velocity were low.

If it had been advanced tech from another world, the Navy could have legally appropriated it under the national security act.
They returned it because they found it not to be extraodinary, only interesting.

It was not a simple rolling ball.
It was three balls rolling, only two were not visible.
So what two of the balls were doing was internal thus not visible.
But, the motion became complex because it was three balls rolling.
The internal balls would not allow the center of mass to ever center over the support point.
And they were heavy enough to have a significant momentum.
Much like a gear, their motions were always the opposite of their friction surface motion.
When shook it would not rattle because the internal balls had no play to bounce in.

It would be like a gyroscope, behaving real wierd because there were two high mass gyroscopes hidden inside always modifying the action.
You would just scratch your head and say, what the f**k, how did it do that?

But hey, just telling you what it really was.
Believe whatever you choose.

 

[Castle-Bravo354]

I remember reading about this back at the time as well. But as it stands its really all unverifiable speculation unless we can look at it. Thats why its location is important as that is the only way to fill in all the data gaps.

As it stands its likely something of this world that wasn't understood by the betz family.....and since its still missing they and everyone else can continue making up to information as is done so often.

 

[bart5050]

I have been looking for info on the toy but have not found anything.
It was not that good a toy, and I think it was in the early 70s.
I do not know, but I would guess this sphere was the prototype for the toy.
It was only produced briefly, cause they just did not sell.

If I find anything I will post it.

 

[Toroid]

My guess it's a probe from the occupants of Rainbow City in Antarctica. If the military wanted it they would have created a copy and taken the original. Lots of nonhuman races have been known to plant devices like that to be found and reported on to keep the topic active in the collective mind of our species. It's rumored the Roswell crash was staged because it happened exactly 2012 miles north of the equator. It also happened in the hyperdimensional year 19.47. They reversed engineered lasers, night vision, transistor, fiber optics and the physics for time travel from the wreckage. The race of Corteum planted one of their ships off the coast of Florida then called the CIA as a mechanism for first contract. The tracking device that lead the ACIO to the Wingmakers chamber placed itself to be found and that action was a time locked event.

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[hiflier]

Hello Toroid,

Seriously? Ok then, let's have a look at your methods. You start off with a "guess" but then follow the "guess" with what sounds like fact. Well it isn't fact. None of it is fact. And here's the truth of it- you KNOW it isn't fact. Not one scrap of your post is anything more than a series of guesses. Why is it that you jump on nearly every thread that provides an opportunity for you to continue your agenda?

State your reason for why you think the Betz Ball is what you think it is. Like this:

"My guess it's a probe from the occupants of Rainbow City in Antarctica. If the military wanted it they would have created a copy and taken the original."

It's precise, nice and clean, and gives you an opportunity, if asked, to prove the existence of the Rainbow City. That way you don't have to use all the other BS to try an look important